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1 Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 03:09

Mishotaki


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Colonel
So.. Borderlands is out...
i've been playing it for the last few days... what do you guys think of it?
i'll put my own opinion of it in the spoiler tags to let you guys guys write your own ideas before defending my hateful opinions
Spoiler:
i think it's a piece of shit game
90% of the guns you find are trash
out of that 90% of those guns are too flawed to be useful, like a sniper without a scope or a shotgun with a 4x scope...
the skills points are mostly useless
if you don't have an auto-healing shield, you'll always be running for life
ammo is hard to find, you have to buy it way too often
hoarding weapons around to sell them feels useless
the inventory system and comparison system are flawed... finding your own good guns are always a chore
running back and forth is damned annoying
it's a FPS, not a goddamned MMORPG so stop making me kill 10 enemies and come back like a WoW player!
the story is extremely thin
for a weapon-finder dream game, you get to keep the same guns for way too long, i've had my 2nd revolver for at least 10 levels without finding anything better for a long time
most upgrades lines on the weapons are just not making sense, you got no clue what they do(the ones in red)
the world is empty and boring
why use guns on the vehicles if you can just run over enemies? (except against other vehicles)
menus are made for consoles are just suck for PC...
a damned minute of sponsor and publishers and shit at the beginning that is FUCKING UNSKIPPABLE is annoying


yes, i'm still wondering why i'm playing it...
some guns are interesting, but most all have the same pattern.... they all fall into a generic pattern...
i guess i'm an addict on games....
i'm now a soldier lvl 26 if i remember well...


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2 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 03:15

Lisianthus


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If you are playing it alone, then you are a sad, very sad person. The game is made for coop. So right now me and Moozgu is playing like crazy.
I'm going siren and moozgu is going Hunter.
At the moment the game seems awesome, but then again we're only level 10.


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3 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 04:07

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
not only am i crazy, but i also am sad Razz

oh yeah, i forgot to add: bad radar/hit direction references... being hurt and having no clue where it is coming from sucks...


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4 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 11:08

s3rius


Lieutenant General
Lieutenant General
Mishotaki wrote:oh yeah, i forgot to add: bad radar/hit direction references... being hurt and having no clue where it is coming from sucks...

That's why it's comforting to have another player at your back. At least you know who teamkills you then..



(Link to video above)

5 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:45

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
s3rius wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:oh yeah, i forgot to add: bad radar/hit direction references... being hurt and having no clue where it is coming from sucks...

That's why it's comforting to have another player at your back. At least you know who teamkills you then..

woot friendly fire is on by default?
well one point in the regen bullets fixes that for the soldier at least....


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6 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 18:20

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
s3rius wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:oh yeah, i forgot to add: bad radar/hit direction references... being hurt and having no clue where it is coming from sucks...

That's why it's comforting to have another player at your back. At least you know who teamkills you then..



(Link to video above)


hahahahahahahahaha

awesome

Edit: Btw... im playing nowadays fallout 3 and its new Downloadable content etc... this game looks a lot like that :S...but worst XD

7 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 18:35

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
the universe is quite a lot like falout 3
but it's more FPS than that... there is no branching paths, no conversations, no repairing...
all there is is quest givers, shops and enemies to kill....

at least there is no annoying VATS or broken FPS mechanics like in Fallout3


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8 Re: Borderlands on Wed 28 Oct 2009, 19:16

Proxy


Lt. Colonel
Lt. Colonel
Ah I was thinking about Getting Borderlands... But it's kinda been pushed back on my games to get. So in the end I'll probably hold off until they iron out some of the Kinks


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9 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 01:20

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Mishotaki wrote:the universe is quite a lot like falout 3
but it's more FPS than that... there is no branching paths, no conversations, no repairing...
all there is is quest givers, shops and enemies to kill....

at least there is no annoying VATS or broken FPS mechanics like in Fallout3


hahaha annoying for someone who plays fallout expecting an FPS... Razz

The FPS its like a "bonus" actually for someone who wants to paly fallout :p... the good thing about that game its the environment, the chats, the story (like fallout 1 and 2), the irony, and specially VATS ^^ !

If u want to play an FPS u have plenty of them Razz

10 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 04:17

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
i wanted a RPG out of fallout 3, i was dissapointed...
i wanted a FPS out of the non-RPG fallout 3, i was dissapointed
i wanted a real inventory system better than the crappy one from Fallout 1 and 2, i was dissapointed
i wanted some really interesting story, i was dissapointed

really, it's not a good fallout game, even tactics is better than Fallout 3...


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11 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 14:58

s3rius


Lieutenant General
Lieutenant General
Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a RPG out of fallout 3, i was dissapointed...

I think it caught the feeling of Fallout pretty well. Most perks and traits were well implemented, there is no skill I remember which was pointless. The enemies scaled nicely, you had a lot of interesting missions and cool characters. The buying/selling was a little flawed, as you almost never bought something (esp. as a proficient thief as I was Razz ).
The half-destroyed cities looks great, with many places to venture to, a lot of little easter eggs, much more love to details than you'd see in any FPS and more than in most RPGs.

Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a FPS out of the non-RPG fallout 3, i was dissapointed

Actually I like the VATS. I only used it when I deemed it necessary, though. As a first attempt of a Fallout FPS I thought it was alright, but not great. I would love to see weapon customization and more variety in the next Fallout, though.

Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a real inventory system better than the crappy one from Fallout 1 and 2, i was dissapointed
i wanted some really interesting story, i was dissapointed

True that. Inventory sucked. Story wasn't very hooking.

Mishotaki wrote:really, it's not a good fallout game, even tactics is better than Fallout 3...

NEVA. The beginning of FO:T sucks so much. I like that you're fighting in a war and can hire guys like Deathclaws, but that's it.

12 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 15:53

Lisianthus


Colonel
Colonel
s3rius wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a FPS out of the non-RPG fallout 3, i was dissapointed

Actually I like the VATS. I only used it when I deemed it necessary, though. As a first attempt of a Fallout FPS I thought it was alright, but not great. I would love to see weapon customization and more variety in the next Fallout, though.

Here you go, weapon customization.


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13 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 16:17

Proxy


Lt. Colonel
Lt. Colonel
lol WOO Very Happy Thanks lisi. But there is one thing thats plagued all Fallout Games.. The Endless BUGS

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14 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 16:23

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a RPG out of fallout 3, i was dissapointed...
i wanted a FPS out of the non-RPG fallout 3, i was dissapointed
i wanted a real inventory system better than the crappy one from Fallout 1 and 2, i was dissapointed
i wanted some really interesting story, i was dissapointed

really, it's not a good fallout game, even tactics is better than Fallout 3...


Ok, first of all.

Fallout 1 and 2 of course are far more better. Thats unquestionable. Fallout tactics...hmmm, dunno...

If u were dissapointed i guess that ur "standars" maybe are kinnda far more higher than mine (for not saying that nothing is good for u :/).

The only thing i can actually say that I dont like about fallout its that sometimes u get a little "lost" in so many quests-places etc in ur first time, and it takes a while to get used to that.

+ everything that s3rius said, agree.

15 Re: Borderlands on Thu 29 Oct 2009, 17:05

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
s3rius wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a RPG out of fallout 3, i was dissapointed...

I think it caught the feeling of Fallout pretty well. Most perks and traits were well implemented, there is no skill I remember which was pointless. The enemies scaled nicely, you had a lot of interesting missions and cool characters. The buying/selling was a little flawed, as you almost never bought something (esp. as a proficient thief as I was Razz ).
The half-destroyed cities looks great, with many places to venture to, a lot of little easter eggs, much more love to details than you'd see in any FPS and more than in most RPGs.

it's true that the destrustion and the maps were inside the fallout universe... but the skill building and stats are mostly useless, they are RPG-based, wich some of them are quite far too useless in a FPS element...
the best thing i was using in Fallout 1/2 was Luck.... wich is now pretty useless because agility is more useful for accuracy and critical hits....

turn-based RPG was much more interesting in that way...
s3rius wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:i wanted a FPS out of the non-RPG fallout 3, i was dissapointed

Actually I like the VATS. I only used it when I deemed it necessary, though. As a first attempt of a Fallout FPS I thought it was alright, but not great. I would love to see weapon customization and more variety in the next Fallout, though.

most guns were clunky and weak as themselves, they were being powerful with skills gained.... the FPS base was destroyed by the weak RPG elements...

some weapons are outright atrocious, like the gauss rifle that takes a long time to reload between every shot, but are useful as they are pretty damned powerful...

PiscisKnight wrote:If u were dissapointed i guess that ur "standars" maybe are kinnda far more higher than mine (for not saying that nothing is good for u :/).
my standards are in the extreme Razz


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16 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 01:51

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
yea u sound like an annoying kid who wants the best toy :/


xD

17 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 05:03

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
PiscisKnight wrote:yea u sound like an annoying kid who wants the best toy :/
xD
we all want the best toy.... if games could be better by us just wishing/whining for it, it would be awesome ^_^


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18 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 16:18

Proxy


Lt. Colonel
Lt. Colonel
I'll take the Best toy. But there is nothing wrong with wanting more out of a game it's the sign of a good player, to be able to say.. They did this well they did that well and this is complete trash and should just be spat on. Instead of saying ... OOOH LOOOK ANOTHER [INSERT TITLE HERE] Let's wait outside of game stop for days...You know who you are.



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19 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 17:21

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
Proxy wrote:OOOH LOOOK ANOTHER [INSERT TITLE HERE] Let's wait outside of game stop for days...You know who you are.

-Lord Proxy
i really wish there would be games that i would be looking forward to that much.... but as games rarely come out on launch day in Canada, i wouldn't want to wait outside of a store and be told that they are still waiting to receive copies of that game...

the only game that i'm remotely excited about would be half-life episode 3.. but since it's useless to buy it in-store, it would be quite a waste of time to do it... that and the fact that i might have kids before they release it(not like i'd have any chance of that... but maybe in 5-10 years, i might Razz ) ... that or the launch of Duke Nukem Forever, that one i'll definitely camp out for it!


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20 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 19:14

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Proxy wrote:I'll take the Best toy. But there is nothing wrong with wanting more out of a game it's the sign of a good player, to be able to say.. They did this well they did that well and this is complete trash and should just be spat on. Instead of saying ... OOOH LOOOK ANOTHER [INSERT TITLE HERE] Let's wait outside of game stop for days...You know who you are.



-Lord Proxy


(i dont know why but the whole idea its kinnda hard to write it down in english :/)

but one thing its a constructive critic... another thing its a destructive one.

I mean... both borderlands and fallout for misho are just plain shit... i think he said that 95% of the things are complete trash.

So :s... thats not "wanting more out of a game"... that's just being over-demanding :/

21 Re: Borderlands on Fri 30 Oct 2009, 22:22

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
but the thing is:
fallout is a franchise... they took a very well known franchise and made a shooter out of it... with all the praise they gave it from all sides, i really missed the whole thing about it...

borderlands was also called a genius game... but i kinda fail to see the magic... blandness doesn't make a game bad... it's just underwhelming...

they aren't plain shit.. they are just overhyped and overpromised on the experience that i got out of them...


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22 Re: Borderlands on Sat 31 Oct 2009, 00:17

PiscisKnight


Sergeant Major
Sergeant Major
Hmmm but come on... be true with urself, did u actually got what u expected from any game at anytime?

Not even I did that in my 12 years of playing games xD and i repeat, my standars of a "GOOD" game are far more lower than urs.

Moreover, the games that I found to be really amazing, ended up being the games i less expected and by some randomness i played them and found em.

So "overpromised"...bleh, all the games that promise something end up giving u much less. Take every game that blizzard made for example xD...

23 Re: Borderlands on Sat 31 Oct 2009, 05:22

Lisianthus


Colonel
Colonel
Mishotaki wrote:they aren't plain shit...

Mishotaki wrote:i think it's a piece of shit game

Hmmm.... I wonder about your real opinion.


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24 Re: Borderlands on Sat 31 Oct 2009, 06:34

Mishotaki


Colonel
Colonel
Lisianthus wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:they aren't plain shit...

Mishotaki wrote:i think it's a piece of shit game

Hmmm.... I wonder about your real opinion.

a piece is not the whole Razz
maybe htat piece is not completely digested, making it still recognisable... and could be reingurgited.. for a disgusting taste, but with a bit of nutricion...

ok ok, i got no idea where i'm trying to go with it...

it's not a great game... it's not a good game... it's a decent game...


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25 Re: Borderlands on Sat 31 Oct 2009, 10:33

Proxy


Lt. Colonel
Lt. Colonel
Lisianthus wrote:
Mishotaki wrote:they aren't plain shit...

Mishotaki wrote:i think it's a piece of shit game

Hmmm.... I wonder about your real opinion.



It's obvious it's a fancy Piece of shit.


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